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TECHNICAL ISSUES
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OTHER ISSUES
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1. Steps for
Filling Online Tax Audit Report
2. Software
Requirements
3. Problem in
Slowdown of System
4. Problem of
Mismatch in Name & DOB as Per ICAI and PAN Data
5. Attachments
6. Problem of
Negative Figures
7. Problem of
Providing Quantitative Details
8. Problem in
Entry of Large No. Of Fixed Assets
9. Problem in
Viewing Stock Figures
10. Problem of Depreciation in Webtel
Software
11. Problem of No Space for Commodity
12. Problem in Calculation of NP Ratio
13. Problem of Blank Fields in Saved
Draft Xml File
14. Problem of Viewing Data of Xml
before Uploading
15. Problem of Printing/Saving Uploaded
Xml File
16. Problem of Fakepath
17. Problem in Viewing Xml File from
Client’s Login
18. How to Print Uploaded Xml Files
19. Problem in Getting Activation
Link/SMS for Completing Registration
20. Unable to See Xml in Assessee’s
Login
21. Non Acceptance of Negative Figures
in Form 29B
22. Use of Special Characters
23. Problem of Non Generation of XML
24. Problem of Swapping Of Due Date and
Actual Date |
1. No. of Tax
Audit a CA can Sign? Issue of section 44AD
2. Online
Filling, Date of Signing and Date of Filling
3. Can a
Partner Sign On Behalf Of Other Partners?
4. Problem of
Two Tax Auditors of Same Assessee
5. Can Return
Be Filed After Due Date
6. Revision of
Tax Audit Report Once Filed
7. Offline
Filed Tax Audit Report To Be Submitted Online Again?
8. ITR 7 to Be Filed Online?
9. Mandatory
E-Filling of Trust, Society
10. Responsibility of Tax Auditor for
Delay in Uploading
11. Penalty for Non Furnishing of
Report
12. Waiver of Penalty for Non
Furnishing
13. Format of Maintenance of Records of
Tax Audit
14. Communication with Previous Auditor
15. Should CA Accept Tax Audit If
Undisputed Fees of Previous Auditor Not Paid
16. Tar of Pvt Ltd Company
17. Address for NRI Director in ITR
18. Pan of Relative for Unsecured Loan
19. Return Can Be Uploaded Before TAR
20. Problem of Three Tax Auditors of
Same Assessee
21. Problem of Different Methods of
Valuation of Stock in Two Firms
22. Approval of Tar by Assessee Is
Mandatory
23. How to Show Additional Depreciation
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REPORT
for E-filling of Tax Audit Report?
e-filling website and Add CA
Audit Report Utility & Generating XML file.
website from CA’s Login Id
at E-filling website from Assessee’s Login Id
Tax Return in Relevant ITR separately
runtime environment requirement for E-filling of Tax Audit Report?
Operating System – Windows XP with Service Pack 3/ Windows 7/ Windows 8.
and above, 32 Bit is required to run applets for offline forms to work.
working on e-utility. What should we do?
Remove all old versions of Java to improve performance. Better use Google
chrome. Can also use Mozilla Firefox.
PER ICAI AND PAN DATA
there is difference in name/date of birth as per ICAI and PAN data. What to do?
It is requested to file form 49 amendment and get data rectified in PAN
immediately. Kindly also note that the day you receive a SMS that your pan
amendment has been approved, you will be able to register at site whether you
actually receive PAN or not.
attached to Tax Audit Report?
B/S, P&L, Schedules, Annexures, Notes, Cost Audit Report and Excise Audit
and Other Report, if any, scanned in pdf format after being duly signed by
Assessee and CA, whether digital or physical. Kindly note that word/excel file
can also be digitally signed.
figures in brackets i.e. “()”. What should we do?
Ans.
DETAILS
business of the assessee, we do not have quantitative information about the
stock. The software is not accepting any comment and it is accepting only
numeric value. What should we do?
Kindly note that Quantitative details of only principle items is to be given.
However, in my opinion, if details are not available,
not provided in the following two places:
Written In Paper Form 3CD As Well As Notes: “Due To Nature & Complexity of
Business of Assessee, It Is Not Possible To Provide Quantitative Details”
NO. OF FIXED ASSETS
assets. His details of purchase are there in schedule. Online form 3CD again
requires filling each purchase. It is a huge task resulting duplicity of work.
In view of our time constraint, such fixed assets may be grouped into
different blocks of assets and each of these groups can be further divided into
2 parts.
i. Assets put to use on or before 2nd
October: For ease of entry in online form 3CD, we will argue that all assets
were put to use on 2nd October, wherever possible.
ii. Assets put to use after 2nd October
(eligible for half of depreciation): For ease of entry in online form 3CD, we
will argue that all assets were put to use on 31st March, wherever possible.
of calculation of depreciation under the Income Tax act, 1961 as a schedule so
that breakup of each group is easily visible to the IT department.
following steps:
into different blocks of assets.
further divided into 2 parts. (i) Assets put to use on or before 2nd October
(ii) assets put to use after 2nd October (eligible for half of depreciation)
2nd October, we can argue that those assets were put to use on 2nd October and
accordingly relevant entries can be made in the online form 3CD.
October, we can argue that those assets were put to use on 31st March and
accordingly relevant entries can be made in the online form 3CD.
group should be entered in a separate row while filling online form 3CD.
the working of calculation of depreciation under the Income Tax act, 1961, as a
schedule, so that breakup of each group is easily visible to the IT department.
When after validating and saving, I reopen the form; only one stock figure is
displayed.
It is the inherent problem of the software but your xml file contains the
correct data. Open the xml file in Internet Explorer and check it. You can edit
xml file, however you have to adopt unceremonious way to edit the xml file for
the necessary correction for the item in subsequent rows of point 28A. Therefore
it is advised to fill up point 28A before filling any other point from point 7
onwards.
SOFTWARE
to AY 2012-13, for almost for all companies for which income tax return were
filled using Webtel software. The demand pertains to non-deduction of
deprecation u/s32 in the return processed u/s 143(1) by CPC Bangalore, as claim
by us in ITR 6. I just want to know if any other user of Webtel are also facing
same problem.
The Problem Was Faced Many CA Using Webtel Software Due To Non Updation. I
Suggest Submitting Revised Return or Making Rectification U/S 154.
business is to be mentioned i.e. Trading/Manufacturing & Retailer/ Wholesaler,
but there is no space given for a particular commodity, say, cloth/ medicine/
cement. What should we do?
You can select, say, retailers & thereafter choose others (i.e. 104, 204, etc as
applicable).
business & also keeps photocopy machine/ agent of LIC, the income from photocopy
machine / commission received from LIC is used for calculating the NP ratio. If
so, then in this case GP ratio is less then NP ratio. So what to do about it?
whole of the business for which tax audit was conducted.
DRAFT XML FILE
file, many fields which we had already entered is showing blank.
a result when we reopen draft saved xml file, it shows blank i.e. we have to
re-enter the fields again. These fields are 7(B), 8(B), 9(A), 10, 11(D), 12(B),
21(Notes), 22(A), 22 AND 23.
BEFORE UPLOADING
uploading?
report prepared in e utility of department. CA P.K. Agarwalla has prepared the
screen shots of the process to view the same. The process is as follows:
àMicrosoft Office Access 2003/2007 à New blank data base àClick blank data base
à A window with file name database1.accdb will appear on the right hand side
pane. à Click on create. Your new date base is saved by default in my Documents.
(You may save the same to your choice folder)
A new data base is opened. Go to and
click External data à Click XML file>Browse the xml file for which you want to
create/view or save the data àClick OKàImport XMLàClick OKàCheck the box “Save
import stepsӈ Close.
hand side pane the indexes for “All Tables” do appear. By clicking any Table/
any point you can easily view and save its contents presently appearing in the
XML file. Once the xml file is saved and the data base is reopened it will show
the updated entries lying in the XML file. If some member finds any error in the
tables he can easily make corrections opening the utility.
Detailed procedural step for Microsoft
Access Office 2007 as well as Microsoft Office 2003 is attached (2 files
attached – namely “Importing XML in MS Office 2003 version” & “Importing XML in
MS Office 2007 version” herewith for ready understanding.
printing downloaded Forms 3CB-3CD, or XML file.
“Save Draft” Button. To view the print option opens the xml file in Microsoft
Access 2007 using new projects. U can find the Data in tabular form.
3CD online one error is coming cannot read fake path file. I have placed the XML
file in c drive fakepath folder and using Google chrome for that. Please help on
the issue.
“fakepath” and not as fake path, in C drive.
CLIENT’S LOGIN
When it is viewed from the client’s login (i.e. for approving or rejecting), the
dates in point no. 16(b) of form 3CD is getting interchanged (i.e. in the due
dates column actual dates are seen and vice versa). But there is no mistake at
our end. We have filled in the data in the income tax offline utility correctly
and generated xml.
Do not worry, upload it.
xml files. How to print?
files. However, it can be printed from assessee’s login id, even before approval
by assessee as the said xml file can be downloaded, from assessee’s login id, in
the pdf format by default.
FOR COMPLETING REGISTRATION
registered himself with his DSC in the e-filing website. But he neither received
any sms nor any activation link in his e-mail. When he tried again to register
himself, the message was that he is already registered. But when he tried to log
in, it was informed that the link is not activated. What should he do now?
i.e. ARCA(Mem. No.) e.g. ARCA300700 and enter your Password as given then click
on “Resend Activation Link”. You will get a mail from the site. If it does not
work then reset your Password by sending mail at
validate@incometaxindia.gov.in.
LOGIN
back and same was reflecting in my log in and I also received message for
uploading. Now when I go to assessee log, same form is not available for
validation. When I try to re-file from my log in I am getting massage that you
are already submitted and assessee has not rejected/accepted.
IN FORM 29B
point no.9 of Annexure A of Form 29B is not accepting negative figures.
Ans.
in Software Is Rectified By Department
typing address?
while typing address.
the saved data and saving draft successfully but it does not generate XML file
when we click generate XML file
ACTUAL DATE
Clause No. 16(b) there is an error in the utility. The columns of due date and
actual date for payments as show in the utility have been reversed against the
actual data being generated in the XML file. The column headers should be
swapped. The same is also evident from the form being generated at the time of
approval.
not swap the dates at the time of data entry. IT department had been
communicated with such problems.
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ON E-FILLING OF TAX AUDIT REPORTS – OTHER ISSUES
etc will be counted in the specified limits of 45 Tax Audits?
No.1-CA(7)/02/2008, dated 8th August,2008, these will not be included and you
can file unlimited such Tax Audit Reports
No.1-CA(7)/02/2008, dated 8th August,2008,
will be 45 / Partner.
be included in the limit. (FROM FY 2012-13, SEC 44AF ISNOT APPLICABLE)
DATE OF FILLING
are to be compulsorily filed online?
01/05/2013, & Notification No. 42/2013 dated 11/06/2013, Audit reports under
Sections 10 (23C) (iv), (v), (vi) or (via), 10A, 12A (1)(b), 44AB, 80-IA, 80-IB,
80-IC, 80-ID, 80JJAA, 80LA, 92E or 115JB are to be filed electronically. (It
covers audit report u/s 44AD, 44AE, 44AF also) (FROM FY 2012-13, SEC 44AF is not
applicable)
30th September?
sec. 44AB, we should not sign Tax Audit Report on 30th September. You should
sign Tax Audit Report before 30th September, since the assessee is required to
“obtain” Tax Audit Report before the due date i.e. 30th September.
92E, what is the last date of filling online Tax Audit Report?
submitted by 30th September. However, for these assesses Report u/s 92E as well
as Tax Audit Report can be filled by 30th November.
PARTNERS
firm can only one partner sign all the reports?
Chartered Accountants Act allow a partner to sign on behalf of (i) Other
Partner (ii) Firm
physical
3CD etc. keeping in view the limit of 45 audits per partner.
Chartered Accountants Act states that “A CA in practice will be guilty if
he allows a person not being a member of the institute in practice, or a
member not being his partner to sign on his behalf or on behalf of his firm, any
balance-sheet, P&L a/c, report or financial statements”]
ASSESSEE
audited by two different tax auditors. How to submit Tax Audit Report?
mentioned steps:
audit report and submit as one
any CA can submit.
copies of both Tax Audit Reports too, for disclosure of the fact that (i) two
CAs have done Tax audit and (ii) that CA who is filling had relied on the work
of other CA
after 30th September? However we will file Tax Audit Report within 30th
September?
filed by 30th September to avoid penalty of Rs. 1.5 Lakhs or ½% of Turnover,
whichever is lower. However, return may be filed later. However, such return
will be treated as belated return.
FILED
revised?
approved by assessee can be revised. However after it has been approved by the
assessee, it should not be revised. However, there is no restriction by the
utility, as of now, to upload revised xml. So we should take due care, so that
correct data is uploaded in the first instance itself. However, members may
kindly note that, all the xml files uploaded will be there in their domain.
SUBMITTED ONLINE AGAIN?
uploading tax audit as it was required to submit offline at that time. Should we
submit these again online?
Return online again. However, kindly ensure that Tax audit Report is duly
uploaded within due date.
2013 – 14 mandatory or can we file paper returns also?
Cooperative Society’s Income Tax Return Are to E-File?
To File Return Online Also.
DELAY IN UPLOADING
delay in uploading of Tax Audit Report?
that normally, it is the professional duty of the CA to ensure that the audit
accepted by him is completed before the due date. Hence, yes, if delay is
attributable to his part.
furnishing a Tax Audit Report?
fails to get his accounts audited in respect of any previous year or years
relevant to an assessment year or furnish a report of such audit as required
under section 44AB, the Assessing Officer may direct that such person shall pay,
by way of penalty, a sum equal to one-half per cent of the total sales, turnover
or gross receipts, as the case may be, in business, or of the gross receipts in
profession, in such previous year or years or a sum of one hundred fifty
thousand rupees, whichever is less.
which penalty cannot be imposed for non furnishing of Tax Audit Report?
imposable under section 271B on the assessee for the above failure if he proves
that there was reasonable cause for the said failure. The onus of proving
reasonable cause is on the assessee. Some of the instances where
Tribunals/Courts have accepted as “reasonable cause” are as follows:
consequent delay;
`turnover’ based on expert advice;
partner in charge of the accounts;
out for a long period, etc.;
theft, etc. beyond the control of the assessee;
account of seizure;
TAX AUDIT
records of Tax Audit Assignments?
assignment
firm/ firms of which the member is a proprietor or partner.
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AY of the Auditee
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Date of Appointment
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Date of acceptance
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Name of the firm on whose behalf the member has
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Date of communication with the previous auditor
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tax auditor necessary?
UNDISPUTED FEES OF PREVIOUS AUDITOR NOT PAID
undisputed fees of previous auditor have not been paid?
No.1-CA(7)/02/2008, dated 8th August,2008, “a member of the Institute in
practice shall not accept the appointment as auditor of an entity in case the
undisputed audit fee of another CA for carrying out the statutory audit under
the Companies Act, 1956 or various other statutes has not been paid”
for Tax Audit Report purpose of a Pvt. Ltd. Co. having statutory Audit done by
the same CA.
ITR 6, only Indian Address is accepted in the form. However, one of the
directors is an NRI and having foreign address. Should we fill in a local
address of the Director and proceed or there is some other way out?
Indian Address Available Then Give.
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Particulars of MD, Directors, Secretary and Principal officer(s)
who have held the office during the previous year
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Name
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Designation
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Residential
Address
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PAN
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S.No.
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Pan No of Party Related with Unsecured Loan in online 3CD Form
without PAN. Hope error will be rectified soon.
Income Tax Return before filing/approval of Tax Audit forms?
to be mentioned in ITR. So TAR is to be filed first.
SAME ASSESSEE
Audited By Same/Different Tax Auditors. How To Submit Tax Audit Report?
mentioned steps.
audit report and submit as one
CAs, any CA can submit.
copies of all Tax Audit Reports too, for disclosure of the fact that (i)
different CAs have done Tax audit and (ii) that CA who is filling had relied on
the work of all other Cas. (iii) There are three different Tax audit report
whose data has been combined while submitting online TAR.
VALUATION OF STOCK IN TWO FIRMS
Firm, Method Of Valuation Of Closing Stock Is Cost Or Market Price Whichever Is
Less. However, In Other Firm, Stock Is Valued At Market Price. How To Show It In
Online Form 3cd?
separate sheet and attach with the online audit report.
MANDATORY
Approve The Audit Report Submitted Before The Due Date
submitted by assessee
in the Online Form 3CD.









